PM - Project manager (who don't know Java at all), Dev1 - developer 1, Dev2 - developer 2
PM: Can we call ActiveX from Java?
Dev1: (Rolling eyes) What is that for?
PM: Because we're having an existing ActiveX component which can generate PDF
Dev1: But there's bunch of free Java tools can do that also...
PM: But we already have an existing tool, so...
Dev2: (Exciting) Why don't we use Web service?
PM: You know how to do it?
Dev2: Yeah, Web service can literally call anything, and blah blah blah...
Dev1: (Faint) ...